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{{Sugengrawuh}}[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 22:06, 27 Mei 2008 (UTC)
 
: Terima kasih. I am a native English speaker and speak no Javanese and very little Bahasa Indonesia. Greetings from Bali. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 11:39, 30 Mei 2008 (UTC)
 
== Blocks ==
 
I just blocked the accounts: Davenbelle and Senang Hati. Cheers! [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 19:12, 30 Mei 2008 (UTC)
 
: Terima kasih Revi; all's bagus. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 04:59, 1 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== Thank You ==
 
Welcome to Wiki Jv, I do appreciate your efforts to make articles in jv look smarter and tidy. There are still a lot of work to be done. Keep it up! Trima kasih. ({{jv}}: Matur nuwun). Regards.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 10:21, 1 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
: Same same. I'm good at code. If I mess anything up, just fix it and let me know and I'll try and avoid doing it again. As I see it, things like the hard-coded html tables need to go ASAP because they are what people copy when starting new articles and that just makes more to clean-up. At some point a set of nice infobox templates can replace the wiki-tables. When depends on how comfortable people are with working with cithakan ({{en}}: templates). Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 10:35, 1 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== SUL ==
 
Thanks for the reminder. Actually my account in Id was just changed from [[:id:Pengguna:Pras 68|Pras68]] (through usurpation helped by Revi) to [[:id:User:Pras|Pras]]. It makes me confused a bit. Keep in touch! [[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]](<sup>[[Dhiskusi Panganggo:Pras|...talk]]</sup>)
 
: No problem. FYI, I have one of the more complex user histories. See my [[m:User:Jack Merridew/Matrix|matrix]]. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 10:28, 4 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== SUL again and Kabupaten Kulonpraga ==
 
# Thanks for the info,the problem of my global account is already solved now.
# Regarding "Kabupaten Adikarta", its a little bit complicated because this particular "Kabupaten" is no longer existed now. It is already merged or included into Kabupaten Kulonpraga.
# As I understand that you're resided in [[Bali]] right now, but to know you better, from what nationality you are? Appreciate for editing at jv wp. Regards.[[User:Pras|Pras]](<sup>[[User_talk:Pras|talk]]</sup>)15:22, 7 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
:: Glad you and 'birdy sorted things for your SUL. I've just sent you an email. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 15:37, 7 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== Lombok Barat vs Timur ==
 
== two questions ==
 
=== Ur Q's ===
 
1. I just moved [[Kabupaten Lombok Timur]] --> [[Kabupatèn Lombok Wétan]]
* http://jv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kabupat%C3%A8n_Lombok_W%C3%A9tan&diff=131181&oldid=131180
Is this ok? I also adjusted the interwiki link on id:wp; [http://id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kabupaten_Lombok_Timur&diff=1494813&oldid=1492626]
 
Before I do too much of this, I want to be sure it's right.
 
2. Also; where is [[Kayangan, Lombok Barat]]? jv:wp has it in [[Kabupaten Lombok Barat]] (which should be moved, right?) but id:wp has it in [[w:id:Kabupaten Lombok Timur]]; [[w:id:Kayangan, Lombok Timur]]. The change was introduced [http://id.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kayangan%2C_Lombok_Barat&diff=429588&oldid=362170 here] but the id:wp navigation boxes are still wrong or it needs to be moved back. Basically, I can't tell.
 
=== My answer ===
 
1. Thats right, basically the javanese word for "Barat" is "Kulon" and "East" is "Wétan" ("North" is "Lor" and "South" is "Kidul"). But as far as I know that if you move a page, the interwiki link will be redirected automatically, unless the author put "pagename" on iw link (cmiiw). So, I guess, you don't have to change iw link in other language.
 
2. To my understanding, Kecamatan Kayangan is located in Kabupatèn Lombok Kulon. See the following ref.
 
3 References:
 
* Lombok Barat terdiri dari 15 Kecamatan yaitu 1.Kecamatan Bayan 2.'''Kecamatan Kayangan''' 3. Kecamatan Gangga 4. Kecamatan Tanjung 5. Kecamatan Pemenang 6. Kecamatan Batulayar 7. Kecamatan Gunungsari 8. Kecamatan Lingsar 9. Kecamatan Narmada 10. Kecamatan Labuapi 11. Kecamatan Kediri 12. Kecamatan Kuripan 13. Kecamatan Gerung 14. Kecamatan Lembar 15. Kecamatan Sekotong. [http://lombokbaratkab.go.id/index/tourismview.php?tourism_id=10 Situs Pemkab Lombok Barat/Peta Lombok Barat]
* Kabupaten Lombok Timur terdiri dari 20 kecamatan, 106 desa, 13 kelurahan, 772 buah Dusun dan lingkungan dengan perincian sebagai berikut: Keruak, Jerowaru, Sakra, Sakra Barat, Sakra Timur, Terara, Montong Gading, Sikur, Masbagik, Pringgasela, Sukamulia, Suralaga, Selong, Labuhan Haji, Pringgabaya, Suela, Aikmel, Wanasaba, Sembalun, Sambelia. [http://lomboktimur.go.id/?pilih=hal&id=5 Pemkab Lombok Timur/Organisasi Pemerintah Kabupaten Lombok Timur].Have fun editing.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 11:28, 12 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
Matur nuwun. That's what I thought. I thinks that anon was just a vandal; or just mistaken. I'll move the id page back and fix the interwiki link. It helps to manually fix the links; do a few other wikis and the rote bots get around to doing others. The interwiki links on WMF projects are a mess. Differing conventions on wikis and different language complicate things, as do moves that leave disambiguation pages behind. FYI, I'm working through the geographical articles on id:wp which is why I've not been very active here in some days. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 12:01, 12 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== Kabupatèn Sumba Tengah ==
 
Last year, [[Kabupatèn Sumba Tengah]] was split-off from [[Kabupatèn Sumba Kulon]] and I've been working on this on id:wp and jv:wp needs to sort this out, too. Could you look at this a bit? It would be helpful if you looked at what I've been doing on id:wp in the last few hours, too; I started this about 2 days ago. There's talk here;
* [[w:id:Pembicaraan Pengguna:Stephensuleeman#Kabupaten Sumba Tengah]]
Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 09:19, 20 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
: That's right thank you, I'll make adjusment on jv (both articles). Kabupatèn Sumba Tengah took three (out of 15) Kecamatan in Sumba Barat, and then split into 4 kecamatan.
 
: For ur ref:
: UNDANG-UNDANG REPUBLIK INDONESIA
: NOMOR 3 TAHUN 2007
: TENTANG PEMBENTUKAN KABUPATEN SUMBA TENGAH DI PROVINSI NUSA TENGGARA TIMUR
 
: Pasal 3
: Kabupaten Sumba Tengah berasal dari sebagian wilayah Kabupaten Sumba Barat yang terdiri atas cakupan wilayah:
: a. Kecamatan Katikutana;
: b. Kecamatan Umbu Ratu Nggay Barat;
: c. Kecamatan Mamboro; dan
: d. Kecamatan Umbu Ratu Nggay.
 
: Pasal 4
: Dengan terbentuknya Kabupaten Sumba Tengah, sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 2, wilayah Kabupaten Sumba Barat dikurangi dengan wilayah Kabupaten Sumba Tengah sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 3.
 
: See: [http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:tjagPx4aznQJ:www.legalitas.org/incl-php/buka.php%3Fd%3D2000%2B7%26f%3Duu3-2007.pdf+kabupaten+sumba+tengah&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5 UU3/2007]
Regards.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 10:04, 20 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
* http://www.legalitas.org/database/puu/2007/uu3-2007.pdf
: Thanks; I'm looking what you've done over now. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 12:53, 20 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
I'm not good in template and other programming stuff. Thank you for fixing the template and reference list. Hope that what we are doing right now may mean something to the community. BTW I heard that recently Indonesian Govt has bought copy right of some "student handbook" from the author, and release it into public domain in Dep of Edu website. Perhaps it will be useful if put into id wikisource?[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 13:57, 20 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
: I'll look at the template. It is used by 2000-2500 articles, so I don't want to break all those pages. I will probably do a test version.
: As I see things related to geographic articles, the sooner things get sorted out properly the easier things will be for the rest of the project's life. Much code has been copied to thousands of articles; cross-wiki copying. Four years ago all the infoboxes on en:wp were in html-form, not wiki-table or template form. When this project (and others) got started, stuff was lifted from en or somewhere that got it there. This is one reason I've been more active on id:wp; it is the immediate parent project to this, su:wp and some others.
: The handbook — like a textbook? — might be usable at wikisource. I've only edited a little at en:wikisource and don't know much about those projects.
: Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 15:00, 20 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== Cithakan Kecamatan ==
 
Since we deal with template, such as Kecamatan template or any other geographical infobox, I guess it will be better to post it in [[Wikipedia:Warung Kopi|Our warung kopi]], so that everybody in the community especially Revi, Ang, Slamet Serayu, Borgx and Tres may join and share the thought. As I see it, name/title of a place and geographical term, may vary from one to another. With regards.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 13:41, 21 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
: Sure, part of what I meant by 'invite others'. I'll chip-in, but would appreciate it if you could summarize what others in are saying (i.e. in id & jv). Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 10:43, 22 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== Kabupaten Jembrana ==
 
Kab Jembrana consists of five kec instead of 4 [http://www.jembranakab.go.id/m-wilayah.php ur ref], so I already add 1 kec (Jembrana, Jembrana). Thanks and have fun!.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 14:17, 23 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
: id:wp has locator maps for Jembrana (Revi did'em). I guess they'll need work, so I won't move them to commons yet. <del>I will add it to the template.</del> Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 14:20, 23 Juni 2008 (UTC)
: I see you've already added it. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 14:21, 23 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== Kab navbox ==
 
I just edited navbox of [[Cithakan:Kabupatèn Muna|Kabupatèn Muna]] (with top portion beeing copied from Kalbar Kab).
 
Please check if this is the correct version? If yes, I will re-edit other kabupaten navbox that I've been copied from id. Thanks.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 22:48, 29 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
: I made a few tweaks; [http://jv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cithakan%3AKabupat%C3%A8n_Muna&diff=138265&oldid=138215 here] I removed a closing <tt><nowiki></center></nowiki></tt> and removed the line break between the table's closing <tt><nowiki>}}</nowiki></tt> and the <tt><nowiki>[[Kategori:[[…]]</nowiki></tt> — removing the line break avoids extra white-space in pages the template is used on. In that edit I also changed the lambang filename to the standard I'm using on Commons.
 
: I made a [http://jv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cithakan%3AKabupat%C3%A8n_Muna&diff=138266&oldid=138215 second edit] where I commented-out the lambang and some of the code because there is no image at the moment. For the Kabupatèn and Kecamatan levels I believe that lambang will be hard to find — many do not have web sites, yet — so it looks better to hide the red link. If you think you can find images easily, let me know. They're all public domain and should only be uploaded to Commons; no individual wiki should be hosting this stuff.
 
: Thanks for your help. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 08:09, 30 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
: I've done more. I transferred the lambang that was used on id:wp to Commons and hooked-up the pages on id:wp and here to use it. When the Portuguese Wikipedia creates an article on this Kabupaten, they can use it, too.
:* [[Commons:Image:Lambang Kabupaten Muna.png]]
: I've also marked the Berkas/Gambar pages here an on id:wp as NowCommons and they should be deleted soon. Another thing I do is setup interwiki links on the templates; this is very convenient when working on the templates as I can more easily work on siblings at the same time. While in these various pages, I noticed templates at poor names and moved them. This leaves tons redirects in the wake and they should all be gotten to at some point (it's a job for a mindless bot). The pages all need other tweaks anyway, so lists of what links via a template redirect serve as guides to things that likely need work. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 09:17, 30 Juni 2008 (UTC)
 
== Lambang ==
 
Thanks for you information, I already chipped in at commons. [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 14:12, 3 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
: Thanks; I just replied there. Patrícia's my informal mentor on commons. I don't really know the details of standard practice with such conflicts and found the conflict between the two images odd. I can't use the commons one on jv because the local one gets in the way. So, something needs to get moved somewhere else and I'm not sure what to do, so I've stopped to talk. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 15:03, 3 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
:Yes of course, I agree. I am bit late with my reply, but I am very busy right now :-) [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 22:36, 5 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
:: Great, I'll work on this later today. I'll ask Pras to delete the conflicting local image after it's on commons. I'm a bit over extend myself these last few days. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 08:34, 6 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for uploading and tweaking the image a bit. Yes I am going to delete the other one. Hopefully someone at the Graphic Lab can convert this image and all the others to svg. Cheers. [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 09:41, 7 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
:: I left a note there the other day seeking volunteers; expect you saw it. The prospect of hundreds of images to work on may be giving folks pause. Also, it's a major nationalistic propaganda weekend in Amerika; folks are all watching the [[w:en:fireworks|cluster bomb]] shows. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 09:49, 7 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
== Kecamatan names ==
 
I am now looking at the spelling of some kecamatan names whether or not they are correctly in Javanese spelling. [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 10:33, 10 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
: I saw; I just tweaked and moved Cepaga and tweaked the navbox and parent Kab page; once you're done, do the others? Off soon.
 
: I pushed {{tl|kecamatan}} along a bit; it looks cleaner and you can now spot the pages that are not using the template but rather hard code a table. These are, I expect, the older pages (in Central Java) that where done before the template was created. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 10:38, 10 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
== Template ==
 
I started translating the template as you asked, however I am not finished yet. [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 10:31, 28 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
== Re:ping! ==
 
I am sorry, the minute you wrote me, I went offline ... [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 19:34, 29 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
: I should have looked here sooner (meaning last night). It seems Borgx is away and you're not seeing the id:infobox issue, but it has got to be changed ASAP. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 10:39, 30 Juli 2008 (UTC)
 
== Welcome back ==
 
Welcome back, I'm glad to see you again. Review of "Id and Jv subject" on en.wp would be a good idea to improve and enrich the content and quality. Warm regards. [[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 21:54, 11 Desember 2008 (UTC)
 
: ''Matur nuwun.'' A lot of the stuff I did on the ID and JV side needs doing over on EN, too; I'm sure that are a lot of messed up details like interwikilinks and flat-out mistakes. Editing in such areas will also be less controversial than shite like crappy TV shows and horrific events such as [[en:Armenian Genocide]] ([[id:Genosida Armenia]]). The issue with the navboxes here seems to be missing css and javascript. That's techie and it might be best to get Borgx in on it. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 04:44, 12 Desember 2008 (UTC)
 
== Puputan ==
 
Hi David, maybe it's a bit confusing. The word "puputan" in Indonesia has at least two distinct meaning.
 
* The first, as mentioned at [[w:jv:Puputan|Puputan]] article originally written by Slamet Serayu in May 2007, is a custom or tradition in Javanese culture when a baby lost his/her umbilical cord at age approx 30 days.
 
* The second, as described at your article, that is a Balinese term that refers to a mass ritual suicide. Therefore I try to create a stub on this with the title [[w:jv:Puputan (perang)|Puputan (perang)]] and correct the link.
 
Rather than merge those articles, perhaps better to create a disambig page? (Sorry copy paste from my talk page).[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 14:24, 14 Desember 2008 (UTC)
 
: Thanks, I'll look at this tomorrow. I had not heard of the first definition at all. I will try and work that into the en:wp pages(s) about this. Do check that I get the iwlinks right. I have no idea about the Japanese page; I expect it's about the Balinese usage. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 16:19, 14 Desember 2008 (UTC)
 
== Coord template ==
 
I gave up trying to fix coord template error. It's just over my head. Could you please give us a hand? (Please check "Pranala menyang kaca iki" at the sidebar to see what links to the template). Thanks.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 12:15, 25 Desember 2008 (UTC)
 
: I did look a bit and it does look messy. I'll take a closer look and haul the whole en:wp scheme over if it seems workable. I'll see what's on id:wp, too. There may well be some adjustments needed to pages in the MediaWiki namespace; [[MediaWiki:Common.css]], .js? TBD. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 05:06, 27 Desember 2008 (UTC)
 
Thanks. Regards.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 11:03, 27 Desember 2008 (UTC)
 
: fyi; I have looked into this a bit; it's connected to just a ton of stuff; conversion templates, microformating. I've found the user to discuss this with; it's not forgotten. Happy New Year, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 07:50, 1 Januari 2009 (UTC)
 
Ok, thanks, no hurry, just take your time. Happy New Year 2009, hope this coming year will bring prosper and happiness. All the best. [[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 07:55, 1 Januari 2009 (UTC)
 
: I'm on a [http://jv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Panganggo%3AJack_Merridew&diff=187243&oldid=182553 bug hunt] today; there are reasons to hate microsoft's lame browsers. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 08:45, 1 Januari 2009 (UTC)
 
== Geobox template (another homework) ==
 
Dizzy..dizzy.., its seem to me that something wrong with "geobox template" at [[Kali Mekong]], [[Alpen]], [[Kali Amazon]]. Whereas, it is fine at [[Kali Jordan]] and [[Kali Sindu]]. Please advise.[[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] 00:10, 7 Januari 2009 (UTC)
 
== Vandalism ==
 
Thanks for the warning, some stubs he made on jv were not quite helpful though. My position, initially was just a standard "assume good faith", but later on I realized that it was just part of bigger game. Best regards and have fun editing. [[Panganggo:Pras|Pras]] <sup>[[Dhiskusi Panganggo:Pras|wicara]]</sup> 05:35, 5 Oktober 2009 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for your help and also for notifying other as well. [[User:Meursault2004|Meursault2004]]<sup>[[User_talk:Meursault2004|ngobrol]]</sup> 06:38, 5 Oktober 2009 (UTC)
 
I'll keep an eye on things and keep you guys posted on events at the toxic wiki and at the meta level. Cheers, [[User:Jack Merridew|Jack Merridew]] 11:00, 5 Oktober 2009 (UTC)